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| 9 min | Interview on Colonel Miri Eisin "We feel at this stage along the way, our best assesment was that there were 200 Palestinian's fighting our Israeli troops in Jenin over the twenty days of fighting within the city. During the fighting itself, we estimate that over 100 were captured, and these are names of the top ones of Palestian Islamic Jihad and the Hamas were captured. In additon around 45 bodies recovered to date. Our estimate at this stage along the way is that there are around eighty Palestinian fighters, terrorists within the rubble at the moment who were killed altogether including the ones that have been found and over a hundred captured and as I said at the beggining two hundred altogether, 100 captured, we think some got away, you can never seal off a camp hermetically." Press: Why was there such a big battle in Jenin and not at the other 5 cities? Colonel Miri Eisin " I think that there are two main reasons , The first is that Jenin is a city that we have entered into it for the third time, and within it is the hardcore terrorists, from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, they are the ones that have exported the most suicide bombers into Israel 28 suicide bombers, they call it the capital of the suicide bombers 23 of these exploded and they decided not only to fortify themselves they expected us to enter a third time but they chose to fight to death and in all of the other cities the Islamic Jihad, the Hamas, the Fatah who we consistently called for to surrender and the top honchos, as I call them, all did surrender. We have captured and detained the top terrorists of both Hamas, The Islamic Jihad and from Jenin itself and the other cities and they are now arrested in Israel. In Jenin they chose to fight and even though we called for them to surrender they did not, not only that but they booby trapped all those homes and today the irony, the cynical side is that they are trying to present it like we booby trapped the homes after we went in." Press: I talked to Muhammed Ghali he is saying that there is three hundred dead, we saw a thirty graves, 130. What would you say to this? Colonel Miri Eisen: "I think the Palestinian's are trying as much as possible to make havoc with the numbers I will quote Arafat himself said on live several international channels that there are five hundred dead. The Palestinians know themselves, how many people fought there, who is missing, the estimates we are saying now are low as I said 80 people altogether which is a harsh number, it is a large number of people who were killed, these were terrorists who fought against us, the graves that they found are the graves of the people that have been past to the hospital in Jenin after the high court in Israel's decision, because it went to the high court, all the bodies that the IDF found in the rubble before we exited the city were passed to Jenin. To date as we know right now 46 bodies, and I don't know about 30 graves, I know of 46 bodies went to the hospital in Jenin, some were buried right there, some were transported to other places. We know of two or three civilians within that, all the rest were terrorists with arms, 6 of those we found within the rubble had explosives belts around them, when we found their bodies." Press: Some of the had executing type wounds on them? What do you say to that? Colonel Miri Eisin: "I'd say as the world is suddenly expective of Israel that everything Israel does is wrong and everything we've done in there is something as it's been called even a massacre, which is what I would say in other words, is a cruel way to show such a harsh battle. 23 Israeli's and 75 Israeli's wounded, 80 Palestinians died, these are high numbers on both sides, there were no executions, not only have I spoken to the people who have fought in the camp and it was a very harsh fight. Infantry fighting in close urban battle is the hardest kind there is. There were no executions, I have seen worst things to me I have seen women posing as if they saw people lining them up, there is no truth to this as well as there is alot of false statements about what happened in Jenin. What they are doing is cynically using the destruction, and we have said there is destruction, and showing only the destruction and not talking about anything that has to do with the context. Jenin, the capital of suicide bombers, Jenin, where the different terrorists came out and exploded all over the state of Israel. We went in only to capture the terrorists and in all this operation about 100 Palestinians were killed , that's harsh, that's hard but I want to remind you that 29 Israeli soldiers were killed and still at the begining of the operation as it went an additional 30 Israeli's were killed in suicide acts and no one has condemned those, it's as if given as an idea that one equals the other, we oppose that we think that is a way of twisting the reality of the fact that there are two sides and each one of them has together to reach some solution. Press: Did the Israeli's have refrigerator trucks in Jenin? Miri Eisin " I'll say as clear as I know not that I have ever heard of. We did evacuate some of the bodies, we went through the rubble and found 14 bodies ourselves, which we meant to take, we take terrorists to a central graveyard in Israel and because of the Supreme Court law we did not do so and we passed them to Jenin, so it's not refrigerated lorries that are different from anyway from what we use to store the bodies so they don't get in any worse shape than they already are. It is not true Israel at the time did evacuate the bodies but becaus of the lawe the bodies were given back to Jenin. There were 14 such bodies that were given back to them. Press: "In hindsight do you think wise to remain there and help uncover all the bodies? "Miri Eisin: "To a certain degree I would say Damned if you do and damned if you don't, yes we could and want to help. I want to remind you that when we were fighting when we requested the Red Crescent to go inside they refused because they didn't want to go in, they wanted to stay out with the bodies in the street, there was a large stage along the way where they wanted to come in to show the bodies on the streets and these are some of the problems we have to contend with, I think there is a cynical desicion on their side now also not to clear out the rubble because it certainly looks good when everybody comes in and films the three streets in Jenin that were destroyed, and we've never denied that in the camp, and not show to a large extent the beautiful and flourishing city of Jenin that stands as is, not in a good a shape as before it just went through a war, the operation we went through over the last three weeks definately damaged some of the civil structures in all of the Palestinian cities that we entered but the fact that we managed to arrest, to detain 1450 people who say they have participated in terrorist acts over 60 explosive labs, everyone of those labs making explosive and uncovering hundreds of kilos of explosives, finding 18 explosive belts, that is 18 people who think committing suicide in the midst of any civilian area is the right thing to do. 23 of the suicide bombers that exploded of the 28 that came out of Jenin that we know that came from that suicide capital Jenin. It makes war as a harsh reality it's not a pretty thing it is a warzone, I think at this stage that each side is at this stage trying to contend with the reality as it goes on." | ID : 1047 colonel miri eisin interview jenin defensive shield war warzone cameraman gary moore Jerusalem Israel Palestine |
| 3 min | Press: Do you think the operation in Jenin was a success? Miri Eisin explains "Probably more than in other cities, In Jenin we virtualy wiped out the terrorist infrastructure, which is the combination of the terrorists themselves, the heads of the terrorists because we do seperate between the planning and the heads and the ones who think it out and the ones who execute the different things, the funding which was coming in from Damascus into the city of Jenin, the explosives, the labs where they make the explosives, make the belts, connect them to the suicide bombers, people should realise that terrorism isn't something that just happens it is something that is funded with alot of money, it's executed by people who choose to do so it's based in the end in education and the education to hatred in Jenin is probably the worst although it's equal to what comes out of other cities, probably worst, in the junior highschool day school right next to Jenin refugee camp, what they teach the first, second, fifth, sixth, seven, graders is all the pictures of suicide bombers on the wall, the glorification that that is there future, and if you teach hatred to children then your going to have a generation of people that hate and hate and want violence and want to kill and in that sense when we went in to Jenin to see these things and capture the terrorists, to stop 10 potential suicide bombers that surrendered in Jenin that had already made their tapes to go and commit suicide, those are 10 people that didn't explode in Israel. You can never expect and not in any of the cities, even Jenin, to wipe it out. We chose not to wipe it out as we've said we realise that there is another side and we are looking for that side for that other partner that will recognise us and not just condemn us. The correlation between occupation and suicide bombings is not acceptable on any terms, the education within the Palestinian authority is bringing the suicide bombers, there is no education in Israel and the IDF to hatred, we try to teach the highest moral standards we went into Jenin with Infantry, we are constantly being asked why we didn't blow them out with F16's, but we chose not to, and it was at a high price to us, but everyone says you chose to go in that's your problem, we come and say that we chose to give security to the people in the State for Israel not an easy thing to do now a days." | ID : 1048 miri eisen state israel jenin refugee camp Jerusalem Israel Palestine |
| 2 min | Press: What about the political fallout from this UN investigative team that is coming in: Miri Eisin " I'll only address that as military, because in the end I am wearing a uniform and I don't address the political issues themselves but for us what we do as the accesor to the State of Israel within military intelligence the repurcussions for is not so much the United Nations which is one political side, but that aspect of education, that I mentioned, because when you educate people to hatred and on all those Arabic channels and Al-Jezera, the CNN of the Arab world, the television of Abu Dhabi, what they hear is hatred, then you see that there are all over the world, not only anti Israel riots but anti-semitic riots, we are seeing the rise of anti semitism all over the world. The repurcussions of that are the fact that today is hatred and the education to hatred, that's what's going around the world right now. You don't hear that in Israel right now nobody talks about the fact that still within Israel even the most extreme are still talking about finding a solution with the other side. The Palestinians not only say they don't recognise the State of Israel let alone that they'll stop the violence, they are interested in unrest and the fact all of the world nowadays, when I look at the streets of Denmark and Holland and I see the hatred at a basketball game and aside from anti semitic attacks and the kills in Tunisia, yes or no on a anti semitic scale, these are the repurcussion we are up against now." | ID : 1049 eisin miri colonel jerusalem interview war warzone anti semitic violence hatred education Jerusalem Israel Palestine |
| 5 min | Press: Clarification on documents found in Ramallah. Success or not as part of "Operation Defensive Shield?: Miri Eisin "First of all that was what part of the mission was apart of the success of this operation. What do I mean? In Ramallah we entered into Arafat's compound, we went into what was there government, the only office we didn't go into was Yasar Arafat's himself and in all the other offices we took out the documents. I'll give you the humouristic side of it now they're are coming out against us in the Palestinian authority and the civil authorities saying we took away their documents and how can they work now having taken away all there documents but, that's the humoristic side with have to have in miltary intelligence. When you take away the beaucratic side of the government you see how it's run what we were looking for in the end wasn't just the find a list of the employees at the PA, interesting but not that important, we were looking for the documents that mainly have to do with terrorism and what I mentioned as funding terrorism, terrorism costs money, people have this idea that someone wakes up in the morning and finds an explosive charge and goes and explodes and it's not like that. Terrorism is something that is based in ideology and education in funding and it takes alot of money and finding the people that you educated who is willing to go out there and explode and bringing the person out to where he needs to get to, and all these things we found within the documents in a variety of offices, within the Ramallah compound, it's not the only place we took documents from, in all the cities we entered civil authorities, the mayor's building, the Governor's etc we took different documents. The overall picture now as we understand is the following, is that Arafat personally, with his signature funds certified terrorists. To say that he funds members of his party The Fatah is to say he had no idea what they were doing. Many of these people were people on Israel's wanted list and had been given to Arafat on several occasions and he himself both signs and designates the amount. There is a direct connection between Paleistinian Authority security functions and the equivilent to the FBI and CIA and whatever within the PA who both funded terrorist organisations, certainly knew of their activities and did not stop them and helped out in some of the cases in Jenin where we had the most extreme problems in that sense. In addition you see from underneath how much terrorism costs. We found invoices where there are demands for money for explosives and for building rockets. These were things to a certain extent I can say we were surprised, you don't really expect to find a receipt for RPG7's, another humoristic side, it was written in Arabic and RPG was written in english, if you know in Arabic there is no P, there is only a B, and it was written as RBG7, it's the way they say it, and those are against the Oslo agreement and we found a receipt in the Chief Financial officers office for having lent out 7 RPG7's, so these are all the evidences of A: against the Oslo agreement and B: for funding terrorism. It's important now to try to understand and show these documents to the people that one of the problems is European funding all of these things we are trying to bring out and translate, all of this we are doing as best as you can." | ID : 1050 colonel miri eisin interview war jenin arafat documents funding terroism Jerusalem Israel Palestine |
| 1 min | Press: Have you taken the documents in the past?: We did not put this as a focus in the past entrances into the cities, in the past few months we have started taking documents we realised what this meant. The first time we started taking out truckloads was from Ararfta's compound and that's what initiated this whole process.." Press: Where are the documents now? "They are being handled within military intelligence, that's where we have the Arab translators, that's where we find the fact finding documents taken out of context can prove many things and we are trying very hard to explain the documents and not take them out of context and not prove anything that's not proven," Press: | ID : 1051 miri eisin press colonel military intelligence propoganda Jerusalem Israel Palestine |
| 4 min | Shots of Miri Eisin at desk, hand in briefcase, Miri on phone. | ID : 1052 miri eisin colonel interview military intelligence idf war politics conflict terrorism Jerusalem Israel Palestine |
